In Chapter 7 of 10 in his 2013 Capture Your Flag interview, software engineer Chris Hinkle answers "How Do You Bring Together Design and Programming in Your Work?" Hinkle shares how he has learned design and programming separately to express his ideas by building digital products. He learns to turn ideas into products by first learning computer programming and second, through practice, experimentation and feedback, design. Chris Hinkle is a senior software engineer working at Evernote in Silicon Valley. Previously, Hinkle worked at New York City digital agencies HUGE and R/GA in creative director and software engineering roles designing products and developing Internet mobile applications and websites.