In Chapter 13 of 21 in his 2011 Capture Your Flag interview with host Erik Michielsen, musician and Takka Takka drummer Conrad Doucette answers "How Has Being in a Band Informed Your Approach to Establishing Trust With Others?" He notes how trusting yourself allows you to trust others and, ultimately, trust as a collective. Each level provides for creative space that allows the band to thrive. Doucette is the drummer for the Brooklyn-based band Takka Takka. He also performs with The National, Okkervil River, and Alina Simone. When not performing, Doucette works as a copywriter, blogger, and digital media producer. He has worked at Blender, Fuse TV, and Heavy.com. Doucette earned his BA in History from the University of Michigan.