In Chapter 8 of 12 in his 2011 Capture Your Flag interview with host Erik Michielsen, innovation strategist Hammans Stallings shares how working in investment banking has helped him become a more strategic thinker. Bankers have limited industry insight, so it becomes more challenging to assess and understand value using limited information, assumptions, and models. Now having worked in industry roles, including at Dell and now, frog design, Stallings learns to blend the modeling learned in banking with the additional industry knowledge available in his work. Stallings is currently a Senior Strategist at frog design. Previously he worked in business strategy at Dell and investment banking at Stephens. He earned an MBA from the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern University, a MS in Technology Commercialization from the University of Texas McCombs School of Business and a BA in Economics and Psychology from the University of Virginia.