In Chapter 5 of 11 in his 2010 interview with Capture Your Flag host Erik Michielsen, East African venture capitalist and conservation investor Josep Oriol elaborates on his decision to raise a family in Kenya's bush Safari countryside. Oriol contrasts this experience with a traditional Western mindset, noting how lessons of risk and responsibility, learning about nature and wildlife firsthand and engaging a resource challenged rural population give the kids an understanding of privilege and sense of purpose.