In Chapter 6 of 10 in her 2011 Capture Your Flag interview with host Erik Michielsen, fashion stylist Lulu Chen answers "What Advice Do You Have for Young Fashion Professionals to Stay Encouraged From That Transition of Unpaid Internships to Paid Entry Level Jobs?" She shares how aspiring fashion professionals working unpaid internships need to stay positive and keep trying and building experience. She notes if the love is there, opportunities will emerge. Contacts and relationships matter and Chen shares how they are fundamental to making the transition. Lulu Chen is a New York City based fashion stylist. Chen earned a Bachelor of Fine Arts degree studying design and art history from the University of Michigan.